ThunderCats Episode 16 "Trials of Lion-O Part 2" OFFICIAL TALKBACK THREAD - Page 4

Tygrafan · 04-07-2012, 10:26 AM

I agree that they should have split Lion_O trials in three episoses. The trial storlyline had enough potential for at least 3 parts. Anyway I enjoyed watching it.

Lion-O act great in this episode, he beat the three generals and Mumm-Ra alone and has proven that he is the king. I think it's was okay for the trial final, but I hope he won't become the ultimate supercat like in the OS.

It happened what I expected, Tygra made some 'bad' decissions and thinks he is not a good leader and blames himself. I hope everybody understand now that he loves his brother.

chique · 04-07-2012, 10:52 AM

I liked this episode a lot! Lion-O didn't **** me off at all!

My only problem was the Panthro trial. I felt like it justified all of those times Lion-O pulled rank on the team. It also takes away from the, you can still learn from your friends moral. It was really odd coming from spirit Panthro, because Panthro was the one to tell him he would have to earn his servitude, not just bark out orders.

Tygra trial was great. It illustrates that Tygra is not the source of all of Lion-O's problems (like half of the fandom thinks) Lion-O is his own worse enemy. If he can't control his emotions, than he cant be objective or make unbiased choices.

Tygra didn't do all bad as leader. Don't like how they made him act so much like Lion-O. I was hoping it would be an opportunity for Tygra to learn why Lion-O makes a better leader. How is that accomplished by having Tygra make the same bone headed mistakes? Though he does seem to be ahead as far as strategy . He made a good show of getting the cats into the pyramid, so I guess stealth is his greatest strength

Oh Kit, you were to presh. You broke my heart, and then put it back together again.

I agree about the dynamic being different, but that just might be a product of the writer. It seemed like everyone was a bit more included than usual no? I'm not sure it was meant to illustrate anything particular. Will was probably just a tad more conscious of the other team members.

Lion-O really shined through this episode. I really feel like the lessons were implemented into the second half of the episode.
8.5/10

Rizefall · 04-07-2012, 10:52 AM

Watched it now and it was really great. Of course some more fleshed out story would have been good, but the creators still did a very good job with the little time they had.

taperoo2k · 04-07-2012, 11:37 AM

I've seen the episode and I thought it worked pretty well given the show's time constraints. Lion-O showed a mix of his youthful arrogance and actually learning something. I think Panthro stopping Lion-O going after Mumm-Ra was a wise decision, leaping into the dark with Mumm-Ra probably wouldn't have worked out that well.
They could have spanned this across more episodes, but I guess they want to move the story along.

Draphin · 04-07-2012, 02:21 PM

Happily their were not as many glaring holes this episode as there were last week. However I am really curious as to Kits music. I mean wow those lizards were out in a sec and suffered Amnesia afterwards. Heck of an ability. Wonder Why she does not use it more often?

I do agree that Mumm-Ra gave up too easily. A simple line like this ritual has drained me so you got lucky this time. Albeit cheesy but it would have made it seem less like he is a world class woos. Of course another way to go would have been to make Lion-O somehow invulnerable due to his daylong resurrection. Mumm-Ra Realizing this would make it logical for him to run to fight another day.

Whiskers! #(&$!@ it's back and personally as much as I hate to say this Lion-O said it better.

I did like Tygras self realization in the cell that maybe being King is not all it's cracked up to be. and that Lion-O did a pretty decent job considering the pressure. It is always easy to say "oh I could do that better." until you actually have to do it. Now that he has had a taste of the responsibility I think he is gonna lay off Lion-O and go with the flow a bit more. Not to mention that Lion-O has now been given a Glowing Endorsement by the Grand Ghost of Jaga. That has got to buy him some points and if Tygra ever tries to gloat that Lion-O still could not beat him even in his own head at least Lion-O can now come back with "well have you ever Died and come back? No! Then Shhhhh." Ahhhhhh Brothers.

Tygrafan · 04-07-2012, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by chique

Tygra didn't do all bad as leader. Don't like how they made him act so much like Lion-O. I was hoping it would be an opportunity for Tygra to learn why Lion-O makes a better leader. How is that accomplished by having Tygra make the same bone headed mistakes?

I agree, he wasn't a bad leader, but he thinks that he didn't do well.
Didn't Lion-O use the same strategy at the end as Tygra before with doing a surprise attack?

I would have liked to see how Tygra would have used the sword, but I guess we will never see it.

Sir_Sapphire · 04-07-2012, 03:26 PM

Tygra wasn't a bad leader, but he really wasn't any better than Lion-O, that was the point. He probably could have figured a way out but he's so unaccustomed to failure his brain kind of shuts down. Lion-O is used to screwing up and thinking on the fly.

Draphin · 04-07-2012, 03:26 PM

Oh I forgot one thing I really did like was the New Growling sounds they had coming from Lion-O in a couple of scenes. When I heard that I thought wow no his is really getting Peeved.

MummRaOrigins · 04-07-2012, 03:28 PM

THe lizards are so inept. As soon as Monkian & Jackalman were imprisoned it was all over. Losing Grune was huge for Mumm-ra's side. No grune, no stones, no sword of his own. I think he we will continue to add new members to his team and he will get his sword back to even the playing field because right now he has no chance (way too easy to defeat).

chique · 04-07-2012, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Draphin

Oh I forgot one thing I really did like was the New Growling sounds they had coming from Lion-O in a couple of scenes. When I heard that I thought wow no his is really getting Peeved.

I was just talking about this. I love when they incorporate more animalistic behaviors and sounds. Yeah, its a humanoid cat, but its still cat like. So the growling and snarling is always a nice touch. I also liked it when spirit Cheetara used her claws to help run in the 2nd trial.

Call my coo-coo, but I want to hear Lion-O roar before everything is said and done.

04-07-2012, 10:52 AM	#32
chique Thunderian Legend Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: SoCal iTrader: / %	I liked this episode a lot! Lion-O didn't **** me off at all! My only problem was the Panthro trial. I felt like it justified all of those times Lion-O pulled rank on the team. It also takes away from the, you can still learn from your friends moral. It was really odd coming from spirit Panthro, because Panthro was the one to tell him he would have to earn his servitude, not just bark out orders. Tygra trial was great. It illustrates that Tygra is not the source of all of Lion-O's problems (like half of the fandom thinks) Lion-O is his own worse enemy. If he can't control his emotions, than he cant be objective or make unbiased choices. Tygra didn't do all bad as leader. Don't like how they made him act so much like Lion-O. I was hoping it would be an opportunity for Tygra to learn why Lion-O makes a better leader. How is that accomplished by having Tygra make the same bone headed mistakes? Though he does seem to be ahead as far as strategy . He made a good show of getting the cats into the pyramid, so I guess stealth is his greatest strength Oh Kit, you were to presh. You broke my heart, and then put it back together again. I agree about the dynamic being different, but that just might be a product of the writer. It seemed like everyone was a bit more included than usual no? I'm not sure it was meant to illustrate anything particular. Will was probably just a tad more conscious of the other team members. Lion-O really shined through this episode. I really feel like the lessons were implemented into the second half of the episode. 8.5/10 __________________

04-07-2012, 03:26 PM	#37
Sir_Sapphire Plun-Darr Legend Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Harrisburg, PA iTrader: / %	Tygra wasn't a bad leader, but he really wasn't any better than Lion-O, that was the point. He probably could have figured a way out but he's so unaccustomed to failure his brain kind of shuts down. Lion-O is used to screwing up and thinking on the fly. __________________

04-07-2012, 03:28 PM	#39
MummRaOrigins TCL Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: San Diego, CA Age: 30 iTrader: / %	Even the playing field THe lizards are so inept. As soon as Monkian & Jackalman were imprisoned it was all over. Losing Grune was huge for Mumm-ra's side. No grune, no stones, no sword of his own. I think he we will continue to add new members to his team and he will get his sword back to even the playing field because right now he has no chance (way too easy to defeat).

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04-07-2012, 10:26 AM	#31
Tygrafan TCL Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Germany iTrader: / %	I agree that they should have split Lion_O trials in three episoses. The trial storlyline had enough potential for at least 3 parts. Anyway I enjoyed watching it. Lion-O act great in this episode, he beat the three generals and Mumm-Ra alone and has proven that he is the king. I think it's was okay for the trial final, but I hope he won't become the ultimate supercat like in the OS. It happened what I expected, Tygra made some 'bad' decissions and thinks he is not a good leader and blames himself. I hope everybody understand now that he loves his brother.

04-07-2012, 10:52 AM	#33
Rizefall Swedish Meatball Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Sweden Age: 20 iTrader: / %	Watched it now and it was really great. Of course some more fleshed out story would have been good, but the creators still did a very good job with the little time they had.

04-07-2012, 11:37 AM	#34
taperoo2k TCL Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2011 iTrader: / %	I've seen the episode and I thought it worked pretty well given the show's time constraints. Lion-O showed a mix of his youthful arrogance and actually learning something. I think Panthro stopping Lion-O going after Mumm-Ra was a wise decision, leaping into the dark with Mumm-Ra probably wouldn't have worked out that well. They could have spanned this across more episodes, but I guess they want to move the story along.

04-07-2012, 02:21 PM	#35
Draphin Laser Beast Join Date: Jul 2011 iTrader: / %	Happily their were not as many glaring holes this episode as there were last week. However I am really curious as to Kits music. I mean wow those lizards were out in a sec and suffered Amnesia afterwards. Heck of an ability. Wonder Why she does not use it more often? I do agree that Mumm-Ra gave up too easily. A simple line like this ritual has drained me so you got lucky this time. Albeit cheesy but it would have made it seem less like he is a world class woos. Of course another way to go would have been to make Lion-O somehow invulnerable due to his daylong resurrection. Mumm-Ra Realizing this would make it logical for him to run to fight another day. Whiskers! #(&$!@ it's back and personally as much as I hate to say this Lion-O said it better. I did like Tygras self realization in the cell that maybe being King is not all it's cracked up to be. and that Lion-O did a pretty decent job considering the pressure. It is always easy to say "oh I could do that better." until you actually have to do it. Now that he has had a taste of the responsibility I think he is gonna lay off Lion-O and go with the flow a bit more. Not to mention that Lion-O has now been given a Glowing Endorsement by the Grand Ghost of Jaga. That has got to buy him some points and if Tygra ever tries to gloat that Lion-O still could not beat him even in his own head at least Lion-O can now come back with "well have you ever Died and come back? No! Then Shhhhh." Ahhhhhh Brothers.