Understanding The World of the Thundercats

[MouseCat]

Clans, kingdoms..how does it work? Are all the cat clans based on the different types of cats existing in this world? Thundera is a kingdom not a clan ...right? Is Thundera a place ruled by the lion clan and if so...why is thundera inhabited by various kinds of cats?...Is it a cat utopia of sorts where all are just thunderians?

Also I don't think I have ever seen the cats hunt for food...they seem to always find fruits on trees to eat. Do cats in this world not eat meat? Are there any non anthropamorphic animals in this world?....so many questions and no sword of omens to answer them..hopefully someone in the fan community will.

[Rizefall]

Originally Posted by MouseCat

Clans, kingdoms..how does it work? Are all the cat clans based on the different types of cats existing in this world? Thundera is a kingdom not a clan ...right? Is Thundera a place ruled by the lion clan and if so...why is thundera inhabited by various kinds of cats?...Is it a cat utopia of sorts where all are just thunderians?

Also I don't think I have ever seen the cats hunt for food...they seem to always find fruits on trees to eat. Do cats in this world not eat meat? Are there any non anthropamorphic animals in this world?....so many questions and no sword of omens to answer them..hopefully someone in the fan community will.

We dont know. The show is not THAT advanced that they have thought this all out. They created a huge world which gives a sense of adventure and good storytelling.

It's a show for kids, with a deep world for the mature audience. Not much about the world or anything has been explored 17 episodes in, Legacy is the exception. All this is just a guess, but i'm pretty sure it's true. As they are not even sure if they would get their second season and building such a world, thinking how EVERYTHING IN THE WORLD WORKS. Just no.

On the other hand, brainstorming is fun so let´s get this going.

[Bloom]

We can infer a bit from what we've seen so far.

Thundera is a city where cats of many clans have settled. We see representation from panthers, lions, cheetahs, jaguars, sabretooth, lynx, and wildcats (or housecats or both). I wouldn't say it was utopia as the cats have had a longstanding war with the lizards, treated dogs as inferior, and had slums, but Thundera was a stronghold (at least until the lizards acquired tech).

We know that the tigers possibly lived within Thundera's walls for a little while, but they were ostracized and all left...as Tygra explicitly stated that he was all alone in Thundera. There is a possibility that other cats chose not to live within Thundera if the Tigers had managed to leave.

The lions are the ruling clan, no doubt because Leo orchestrated the rebellion and acquired the stones of power. Little adopted Tygra was only a crown prince because there was no blood heir to the throne for the first two/three years of his life. It looks like the wildcats/housecats were the commoners and the Thundercats creators have mentioned that those with tails are seen as lower class. Interestingly, Panthro originally had a tail before losing it at some point (probably a lizard cut it off).

We've seen Snowmeow in an episode, a bird that Lion-O latched onto, the weird horse things, and they were eating meat during the games in the premiere episode. So there must be some native animals of Third Earth in addition to the alien races that now inhabit it.

[Michael]

Originally Posted by MouseCat

Clans, kingdoms..how does it work? Are all the cat clans based on the different types of cats existing in this world? Thundera is a kingdom not a clan ...right? Is Thundera a place ruled by the lion clan and if so...why is thundera inhabited by various kinds of cats?...Is it a cat utopia of sorts where all are just thunderians?

Also I don't think I have ever seen the cats hunt for food...they seem to always find fruits on trees to eat. Do cats in this world not eat meat? Are there any non anthropamorphic animals in this world?....so many questions and no sword of omens to answer them..hopefully someone in the fan community will.

I think that even though were not even a full season in, a rich enough world is starting to emerge that we can answer most of those questions, and I'm sure the rest will emerge as the NS mythos deepens.

Thundera in the NS is certainly a kingdom. A cat kingdom in a world of various anthropomorphic animals. Most cats, but not all, live in this kingdom, and yes it is almost a utopia of sorts. The thunderians are made up of numerous species of cats, further broken up into various classes, almost like a caste system, and ruled over by the lion clan, previously led by claudus and now liono. There are also clans of cats who live outside of thundera, we have already seen a 'lost' tiger clan, and can infer there are others spread throughout third earth.

As for food, of course they will eat meat alongside other things. The pilot stated the cats had the best crops. The fact that we do not see them hunt means nothing, there is only a very short time slot for each episode and a lot is cut out already. I mean do u ever see the star of a film doing a weekly shop or have a crap? No, but we can safely assume they do.

And there are lots of non anthropomorphic animals. Snarf? Snowmeow?

I'm not sure what you are confused about exactly, these things are all covered in the episodes. One thing I am sure of though is that a very rich mythos is being weaved here, based heavily on the strong base of the OS, and it will only continue to get richer and bigger as we go on!

[MouseCat]

Michael, I'm not confused at all...I just don't remember all the details of every episode so vividly (hence the thread )...I get to the show when I have time...some details get lost to me.

I keep forgetting that Snarf is just a pet now..and has no voice (i'm not complaining..that character annoyed me in the OS). I guess the main thing to keep in mind is that the animals we are familiar with are now for the most part anthropomorphic creatures in the Thundercats..and the non anthropomorphic animals in the Cat's world are more alien like in nature ...like Snarf...basically it's a big switcharoo.. Interesting.

Still I would like to see the cats do some kind of hunting..these are cats after all.. top predators..they should show something.....there is always time to show little details like this..Details expand the world..and make it more believable. It's always in the details...I'm not talking minutes here..i'm talking more like..oh look panthro's cooking up a boar in the fire kind of moment..something to insinuate that hey these cats aren't vegetarians...and do at times go hunt for food...a scene like that takes just seconds.

[Bloom]

I forgot about the Ramlak episode. Those kittens were putting away a lot of various foods on the ship. And next week's episode's summary has them hunting for food. The kittens are very food-motivated (probably from having a lack of it when they were fending for themselves).

[MouseCat]

Thats' right Bloom!! They are going hunting in the next episode..well!! It's nice to hear that!! Thx for the reminder!

Thank you all for the info!! Hopefully more will post what they see and we can get a good collection of information on what's what in the world of Thundera ..

[balgus82]

there's also the mounts they rode in Thundera. Those weren't anthropomorphic either.

[Michael]

Originally Posted by MouseCat

Michael, I'm not confused at all...I just don't remember all the details of every episode so vividly (hence the thread )...I get to the show when I have time...some details get lost to me.

I keep forgetting that Snarf is just a pet now..and has no voice (i'm not complaining..that character annoyed me in the OS). I guess the main thing to keep in mind is that the animals we are familiar with are now for the most part anthropomorphic creatures in the Thundercats..and the non anthropomorphic animals in the Cat's world are more alien like in nature ...like Snarf...basically it's a big switcharoo.. Interesting.

Still I would like to see the cats do some kind of hunting..these are cats after all.. top predators..they should show something.....there is always time to show little details like this..Details expand the world..and make it more believable. It's always in the details...I'm not talking minutes here..i'm talking more like..oh look panthro's cooking up a boar in the fire kind of moment..something to insinuate that hey these cats aren't vegetarians...and do at times go hunt for food...a scene like that takes just seconds.

Fair enough, there was no offence intended.

Also remeber that within the animal races there seem to be degrees of anthropomorphism, it has been stated that the thunderians who still have tails are lower classed for example, and some simply look more human than others. This is the case for many of the animal races.

I do absolutely agree with you about the tiny details, and perhaps we will see this at some point in the future. I mean I wonder what kit and kat will be doing when they start to get hunted by something themselves next week? Also, there is room for a scene like that, with say lionO off on his own looking for food, and then getting attacked by that episodes bad guy. Its an easy set up so I can imagine they will use it at some point. I mean do you remember the OS scene with liono hunting the gazelles/deer or whatever they were, but the sword refuses to kill?

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Forgive me repeating myself, but I posted this in another thread about how I imagine the clans would work within Thunderian society, and I thought it would be relevant here.

Within Thunderian society, both within and outside of the Kingdom of Thundera, there are many different clans. The vast majority of whom live within the kingdom, but not all.

These clans would be predominantly but not exclusively based on species or sub species. For example there could be many different tiger clans based on species, Bengal tiger clan, Siberian, Sumatran, etc. These could even be broken up further with two seperate Siberian tiger clans in two seperate locations for example, and some tigers even choosing to live alone. My guess is since tigers are known to be relatively rare amongst thunderians, these tiger clans would be small, spread out and relatively reclusive.

As for Cheetara, there could be many Cheetah clans within thunderian society or choosing to live outside of the kingdom. The fact that she states she doesn't have a clan may just mean her own clan have either cast her out for some reason or were annhialated by mumm ra or the lizards. There may well be a lot more Cheetahs around. Either way she will have a fantastic back story I'm imagining!

[MouseCat]

Didn't know about the Class system in Thundera..thx for the 411 on that guys. It's almost as if the more "human" you are the more socially superior you are compared to others.. Interesting. Hopefully this will be addressed with more detail in a future episodes.

So there is probably an answer for this already but..what about Mummra? he's human right? I recall human characters showing up in Thundercats OS..but don't remember if they were of thundera or considered "alien". The creatures in Thundercats share many similar traits to Egyptian gods in the way they are depicted..animal heads with human bodies...with the addition of Mummra obviously being a "mummy" and his fortress that's a "pyramid"..there are many connections with ancient Egyptian culture/ theology here. And the whole Tygra/moses like story is also very interesting..Any thoughts or opinions on this?

Michael, I share your theory on clans dispersed by different breed/subspecies of cats...it makes sense. This also allows for a future introduction/guest appearances of characters like Bengali to show up. I really don't believe that Tygra is the last Tiger out there...

As for Cheetara..I really can't wait to learn more about her back story. What I love about her is that she took matters into her own hands at an early age and fulfilled her goal/dream of becoming a cleric. She's a strong, brave, and determined figure whom has great faith/trust in others. She is a very centered character confident and aware of her own abilities, power, and beauty. This makes her look quiet "perfect" in the sense that she has no issues..but it's usually these people that are hiding or compensating for something in their past that they are ashamed of. I for one believe she has a shady past..that not necessarily has to do with her ( she's just a child when she joins the clerics) but with her clan/family.

I'd like to see the Cheetahs be a nomadic clan...maybe like gypsy travelers that consists of small groups of cats who keep mostly to themselves ...I like this idea in the sense that Cheetahs are very very solitary creatures (as most cats are)..who endure many challenges in the wild because of their size,physical traits, competition and bullying by other bigger predators who travel in packs or prides. I for one would never want to be a cheetah in another life LOL..Cheetah moms by the way are the hardest working cats in africa..dead beat cheetah dads never stick around...the jerks!!